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TK
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I have no idea what an options file or iSite is - do I need to do something here?

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Terry,
You can download a copy of the current 7.1 iSite software at http://www.motosat.com/downloads/internet/software/idirect/nms71.zip
If you are on-line then you don't need to do anything. If you are not on line you will need to contact Franco about a copy of your config file and instructions on how to load it.

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OK, I thought maybe the problem arose when folks were trying to search and that as long as I was locked on I was OK. What does the iSite software do?

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Hello everyone. We happened onto this site last Sun when we were having problems with our iDirect. Gotta say VERY informative, wish I had found it sooner. Anyways, the initial problem was fixed on Mon, new file was uploaded thanks to Franco. Now today we are having the fault that has been described here, TX disabled. Are we correct to assume that we can install the same file that was given to us by Franco and that will fix this, or do we need to get new config info? Our systems do not stay online all the time, so if there was an update we may miss it.

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If you are not having weather issues, I suspect your TX disabled is due to some equipment tweaks at the NOC. I lost connection earlier today. I'd say until they get us all moved over to the new provider there may be some occasional outages. Has happened to me 3 times this week. It eventually comes back.

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Originally posted by wayneco:
Can you confirm the settings that changed on the D3 -- is the only change there 101W to 91W?

That change has not happened yet, so we won't know what the D3 settings are until someone gets moved to G17.

Most (all?) of us are still on 101, but they knocked about half of us off completely when they messed around last weekend, and the only way to get back online is to upload a copy of the options file.

As a temporary thing, the last I knew they were going to move some of us to G18 at 123W. The permanent move to G17/91 is not scheduled now for another two weeks.

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TK, we talked to Franco, and what has happened is during the move(s) it appears we may be getting "knocked off" at the NOC end. All that had to be done is a reboot for our system at the NOC end, and we are online. Also told that this problem may persist until sometime next week

[ August 22, 2008, 08:43 AM: Message edited by: JHayes ]

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We go through cycles with 'tx disabled', then super slow response, then super good response, then 'tx disabled'. When that starts, we stow, then re-search and then we seem to go back to normal for a few hours, then the cycle repeats.

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Just so there's no confusion between the two situations:

When you've been completely knocked offline and need an options file upload to get it back, the modem does not get a receive lock. No Green light.

When there is an intermittent problem, you have receive lock, but no TX.

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In the interest of my continuing education, reading between the lines I am guessing that this "options" file is what I see often being ignored in the 3100 admin log. Looks like it is named with the target modem serial number with the ".pkg" extension. So my modem ignores these broadcasted files until it sees its serial number, and if you are offline when yours gets blasted out, you have to get the options file via email and apply it using iSite?

Also, can someone help me understand what AMC 02 and AMC 04 are on Americom and likewise what G18 and G17 are on IntelSat? My guess here is these are transponders and AMC 02 and AMC 04 are both on 101W.

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tx disabled is normally indicative of a few things (could be any of these):

1) The SNR (signal to noise ratio) is SO LOW that the transmitter is disabled/muted. Typing rx snr at the prompt in telnet will yield your receive SNR (C/N). If it is below 5 your tx will be disabled. If above 5 your tx might be enabled, but there is a chance that you may be struggling along.

2. The modem has been intentionally deactivated. If that is the case, it is probably for a good reason, they either do not want you radiating onto an old space segment (upstream freq plan) because a carrier change has been made....or they have made a significant enough change to the network to warrant a new options file (for the gentleman who asked what an options file is, it is a satellite router config used by the falcon process of your 3100).

3. The complete lack of a downstream carrier will also mute the tx (disable the tx) as your modem has no timeplan (to use) to burst into the upstreams (upstreams = return carriers/channels that get you back to the earthstation hub)

If I were to take a stab at it (best guess) I would say your problems is #1 or #2.

Question: when the tx is disabled, do you have a green receive light? If so, what is the observed rx snr?

[ August 22, 2008, 09:28 AM: Message edited by: TDMAMike ]

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TK, those ignored statements are image packages and options files going out via multicast (semi-reliable traffic) from the hub to other idirect units/users...read: they are not destined for your remote serial number/derived ID so they are therfore ignored.

Curious: type version on your remote from telnet. Are you still 7.1?

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It's just hard to make a living either way.

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TK,

AMC 2 and 4 are Americom spacecrafts. G17 and 18 (Galaxy 17 and 18) are Intelsat crafts (read: they own the transponders on the craft and are responsible for the payload). All of them are sitting in a specified orbital slot on the equator. Crafts on the satellite belt are normally slotted with 2 degrees of longitude separation.

Here is a good reference for you (this is a really-really nice chart)
http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/space/bss/launch/980031_001.pdf

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quote:
Originally posted by TDMAMike:
TK,...Here is a good reference for you (this is a really-really nice chart)
http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/space/bss/launch/980031_001.pdf

Outstanding! And up to date as well. I'm used to referring to satellites by their name...but MotoSAT and Datastormers are used to calling them by location - which really makes the most sense, unless it's important to know who the owner of the bird is.

The names used by the various owners : AMC designation is always a SES Americom bird and either G xx or Galaxy xx or Intelsat xx tells you it's a Intelsat bird and of course, SatMex is SatMex [Roll Eyes]

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