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quote:
Originally posted by John Davis:
[QB] Regarding Gain antennas.

An antenna with higher gain can transmit farther

All other factors being equal it can also RECEIVE farther. The gain is "Bi-directional"

Does this help?
/QB]

John,

Would this hold, strictly from changing to a higher-gain antenna? Or does it require implementing an amplifier, like Don mentioned he uses?

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quote:
Originally posted by lwrver:
quote:
Originally posted by John Davis:
Regarding Gain antennas.

An antenna with higher gain can transmit farther

All other factors being equal it can also RECEIVE farther. The gain is "Bi-directional"


One other factor worth mentioning, is that with increased gain also comes narrower vertical beamwidth. A high gain antenna may increase distance, but it may also jump right over someone close in. A 2db antenna will have a vertical beamwidth of 35-40deg, while a 15db antenna will only have about 10-12deg of vertical beamwidth. Therefore someone close in will not be in the optimum path. Antenna height also is a factor. The optimum height for a wifi network is 20-25 feet. If directional antennas are used, they should have about 1-2 degrees of down tilt.
OK... so if you assume an omnidirectional antenna truly broadcasts in all directions (i.e. a sphere), which I assume it doesn't REALLY do, but humor me... then a higher-gain antenna broadcasts out in a "flattened" sphere? More like a donut shape?

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quote:
Originally posted by bc_mtnaire:
quote:
Originally posted by lwrver:
quote:
Originally posted by John Davis:
Regarding Gain antennas.

An antenna with higher gain can transmit farther

All other factors being equal it can also RECEIVE farther. The gain is "Bi-directional"


One other factor worth mentioning, is that with increased gain also comes narrower vertical beamwidth. A high gain antenna may increase distance, but it may also jump right over someone close in. A 2db antenna will have a vertical beamwidth of 35-40deg, while a 15db antenna will only have about 10-12deg of vertical beamwidth. Therefore someone close in will not be in the optimum path. Antenna height also is a factor. The optimum height for a wifi network is 20-25 feet. If directional antennas are used, they should have about 1-2 degrees of down tilt.
OK... so if you assume an omnidirectional antenna truly broadcasts in all directions (i.e. a sphere), which I assume it doesn't REALLY do, but humor me... then a higher-gain antenna broadcasts out in a "flattened" sphere? More like a donut shape?
It would be more like a flattened horizontal figure eight. The higher the gain, the flatter it is.

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