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Sterling
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Hello to all still using the LCU-1 and DW4000,

I recently came across the following piece of technology that could be potentially very handy for us legacy owners. It's called USB over IP, and can be seen at the following URL:

http://www.digi.com/products/usb/anywhereusb.jsp

In a nutshell, it's a box with 5 USB ports and 1 Ethernet port. You can now access USB devices from anywhere on the network, without having a PC directly attached. Street price is just over $200.

The DataStorm implications are obvious. Attach your modems to one USB port, your controller to another (via a USB/serial adapter of course). Plug the Ethernet port into a WAP, and you now have wireless Internet anywhere in or near your RV - without a host PC, or a D2/6000 upgrade.

The catch is that it might not work. They imply that not all USB devices are compatible, and on their website, they have a compatiblity tester. But being 5000 miles from my DataStorm, I can't try it. Somebody with a DW4000 willing to give it a go? Click on the above link, then "compatiblity check tool", and report back here!

I've been waiting for someone to make a device like this for a couple of years now...

Sterling

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Joel Shandalow
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Stewart

I tested as you asked and both my radio shack serial USB and satellite usb reported as compatible.

Computer dumb me , I'm really not sure what the significance of this device is for we Legacy users

can you further explain what it would allow us to do that we cant now do Ie. I already have thru 802.11 the capability to connect to Wifi sites where available. Also have set up a wired network for out two onboard laptops. Would it do away with all these wires I have hanging everwhere? And effectively give me totally wireless setup? Other than power plugs of course

Thanks

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Originally posted by Joel Shandalow:
Would it do away with all these wires I have hanging everwhere?

That is exactly the idea. Back in Mid-2003 when I got a 4020 modem I got rid of the USB connection to the modem, and immediately turned my thoughts to getting rid of the D1 controller serial cable. You can see the results in the article I wrote back then at
http://www.datastormusers.com/all_wireless.cfm

A few others have had, or still have, setups based on that article, but it was never possible for a 4000 user because it wouldn't handle USB. This new option would work for a 4000 user. Best example is someone with a 4000 and a single laptop computer. With this they can sit outside with no cables, something otherwise only possible with a host computer (or one of the newer modems, 4020 or 6000).

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Well I ordered one so I guess I will be a test Rat. I may need help setting it up but I think with all the great people here we will make it work. I will post as soon as I receive it.

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Sterling
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Great to hear you're taking this leap, Steve! I for one will be waiting eagerly to hear how it works out.

Sterling

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Hello,

This looks slick. I will be following this thread very closely.

Gary Dunn

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Dang that is very slick. It has tremendous implications for Starband 360 users also.

Please let us know how it goes and many thanks for being the guinea pig

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well now that I thought about it a bit it would not work on a starband 360 since there needs to be at least one PC on the network running the starband software and if that is the case why not just implement the ICS solution which is free?

I think I let my excitment blind me there for a sec. Still it was a nice momentary brain fart

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Max, you're missing the way it (hopefully) works. The Direcway 4000 needs DWay software also. The problem now is that the computer has to be attached by USB to the modems. If this works as it should, the computer running Direcway or Starband software could be completely wireless; the modems would not know the connection passed via a wireless TCP connection before they transferred to USB, and virtual USB ports created in the machine would make the software think it was connected to the modem.

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Hummmm.....I see. That is a very interesting idea. Thanks for the point of clarification.

My brain is working in a diminished capacity right now since I have been in bed with a bad case of the flu since yesterday afternoon.

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Wow, cover you mouth when you say that! What, do you want to get us all sick! [Big Grin]
Take care of yourself, I was praying for death when I got the flu last year. I hope you get better soon.

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This is fine for 'one' computer connected wirelessly. What will happen when a second computer is to be connected?

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Jim,

That's a bit of an open question until Steve tries it [Wink] , but in theory you should be able to share your connection wirelessly via ICS the same as before. The host computer should just "see" the modems as being plugged into USB, regardless of the fact that there's a network link along the way. As Don put it, a virtual USB port.

Keep your fingers crossed that this is actually how it works!

Bill: You shouldn't be able to catch the flu from here as long as your antivirus is up to date...

Sterling

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Originally posted by Sterling Udell:
in theory you should be able to share your connection wirelessly via ICS the same as before. The host computer should just "see" the modems as being plugged into USB, regardless of the fact that there's a network link along the way.

Yes, that does post some interesting convolution theories. A computer with only one thing connected. That "thing" is a wireless tcp/ip connection. However the computer "thinks" it has two connections, one via USB to the modems, and one via tcp/ip to the router. It shares the one connection via the other, all over the same connection. Does that make your head spin, or what?

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Thanks Sterling, I had forgotten that my A/V should keep me safe. I can breathe easy now.

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