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As a new user I am still working through the ins and outs of this system. I have ran into a problem that I am asking you experts to think about. After an hour or so my CPU usage goes up to 100% and of course things slow down and can not serf anymore without rebooting. The "System" process slowly goes up to about 90 or above and the total CPU process stays at 100%. I have tried to change the Processor scheduling to Bacground services and Memery usage to System cache for best performance but that has not helped. I have cache of 516M. Nothing so far has helped to stop the system from going to high CPU usage till the machine just gets to slow to continue to run Direcway. I am running an AMD 600 Meg speed processer and plan to upgrade to new Dell 2.4 Gig in the near future but is there something I can do to stop this from max'ing out the CPU for now. This is now getting worse and it only takes 30 min for CPU useage to reach %100.
You did not say precisely what you were looking at. But I am thinking that you are looking at the "System Idle Process" in your task manager.
If this is correct, then this is NOT the problem. The System Idle Process gets larger as other processes get smaller, it takes up the slack.
Here is another thing to look at besides CPU processing, which I believe is not your problem. Is your hard drive working continuously? If the hard drive light is on a great deal, or all of the time, it could mean that your hard drive cable needs reseating. Go inside your computer, and back your hard drive cable off, and then push it back on. Wiggle it a little. Then boot up and try it again.
-------------------- George Lehrer The Adventures of Tioga and George F1 DataStorm | D2 | HN7000S | SatMex6 113W/1039MHz V/H Posts: 455 | From: Western United States and Mexico | Registered: May 2003
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Originally posted by rbunge: The "System" process slowly goes up to about 90 or above and the total CPU process stays at 100%.
Something strange, that's for sure. On my system I rarely see the System process above 1%. In the last 40 hours since this laptop was last booted, the System process has used 8 minutes. In years of watching other CPU-intensive processes I don't think I've ever had reason to even contemplate the system process. Anybody out there know what tasks it might be doing? For example, indexing? I run with indexing turned off, so that's why I ask.
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You need to get some beeter information when you go to the task manager. There are some processes out there that will cause the situation you describe. Next time you pull up the task manager, go to the "processes" tab and click on the tab that says CPU. This will sort the processes by the amount on CPU each one is using. These are the programs that you will need to deal with and find out why they are sapping your computers processing power. If you click on the "performance" tab you should not be using more than a few percentages of the CPU when you are not doing anything. I have seen a few cases where the dsserver.exe will take 25% or so, but you can always kill that process without any ill effects. Take a closer look at what is going on an then post here again
-------------------- Bill Adams Winegard Company Posts: 15775 | From: Traveling the Western US | Registered: May 2003
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I had the same problem from time to time, with earlier versions of the DataStorm software - the cpu usage by the DataStorm Administrator went to essentially 100% and slowed the computer to a virtual standstill. I routinely shut down dsserver once on line, and have it set to manual, not automatic. However, even withdsserver running, 2.0.0.14 has never exceeded 6-8 %, and is usually in the 0-2% range. Unless I am mistaken, one of the MotoSat comments (Ed, I believe) on 2.0.0.14 was that the software was changed to correct this rare but occasional problem. My guess is that you are not running 2.0.0.14. Is that correct?
Don Smucker
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Update on CPU Usage. The cpu usage does not go up gradually. It jumps all of sudden to 100% with the SYSTEM process going to mid 90% and its mem usage doesn't change and is the only process running high. With no applications running. I ran a Norton full virus scan and have now turned Norton off and all other non essential process just DirectWay. Turned off system restore. The big thing I am trying is to turn off BE browser and proxy config check after 1 hour option. Nothing shows up in the XP system error log. I am now back online posting this and will see if problem returns. I don't think I can reinstall BE as I do not have phone connection to be able to run Websetup. At a campground in northern Wisconsin. I am running DataStorm Admin 2.0.0.14 Ihave been running system for several hours without BE running and all ok, so now plugged in modems and BE came up and we shall see if cpu goes wild. Question is my site ID the same as my billing ID number?
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Been up and running for 1 hr 30 min. During that time have been searching google groups and learning this is a common problem and will just have to see how it works out. May have to uninstall SP1. So won't bore this great group on this much more as this problem for most people seems to come and go.
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Was up for 2hr 23 min and then bang CPU went to 100%. What's a guy to do. Will explore Microsoft help and keep looking for answers and see what I can find. All take care and thanks for your ideas and help.
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R, I think you are still not getting good information. When you open the task manager, the idle system process will show almost 100% CPU. THIS MEAN NOTHING! If you go to the "performance" tab, what is that reading? On the assumption that it is reading less than 10% all is well. If it is reading more than that, then you need to click on the "processes" tab and see what (other than idle system process) is using what amount of CPU. This is your CPU user, not idle system process. As to the uninstall/reinstall, that can be done without any phone line at all. As long as you have a copy of your 3 .acm files you can do the No Phone Websetup anywhere and anytime. I don't really think this will make any difference with the problem you are having, but if you need instructions on how to do the no phone setup, let me know and I will forward you a copy. It is also posted on the MotoSAT Yahoo owners group if you are a member there.
-------------------- Bill Adams Winegard Company Posts: 15775 | From: Traveling the Western US | Registered: May 2003
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Originally posted by Bill Adams: I think you are still not getting good information.
You guys! Search on "System Process cpu" and you will see the pattern. Somebody posts that their system process is going to 100%. Everybody jumps in to tell them that it is normal and it is system idle, and so on. A small number are willing to venture back in and say that it really is the System Process, as Ron has done, and still nobody believes them. In the small number of cases where resolution has come with persistence, it has been from turning off indexing, or from updating their Bios.
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Orig posted by Don, In the small number of cases where resolution has come with persistence, it has been from turning off indexing Don, I went to Computer Managment and read about Indexing. What is the down side to turning off or reducing indexing?
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Rbunge, You may have a trojan or spy ware program installed on your PC? Have you ran any kind of Spy Ware/Ad-Aware program to see if something is installed on your PC that will take over your resources?
-------------------- Darel Pedersen IT Systems Technician Posts: 723 | From: Boise, Idaho | Registered: May 2003
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I have run Ad-aware 6.0 and Spybot and Trojan Romover. And have have Spy Sweeper running. Have killed indexing. And have ran system for several hours without BE running and all is ok. Did chkdsk many times and defraged twice and disk cleanup. So now am just back online and will see what happens.