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Joe Keenan
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We're thinking about getting a new RV. I'm wondering about moving our XF-3 to it. Should I plan on ordering a new base plate? Any idea how much that would be? And how much should I expect an installer to charge for moving it?

I don't need help setting up the controller or modem, so I'm wondering about moving it myself. Is there really anything complicated about installing it I should know about?

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joe

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Bill Adams
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If you don't mind drilling the hole, the transfer is a piece of cake (but time consuming). If you do not have a rubber roof on your current coach then you can remove the dish and the baseplate without a second thought. If you are able to pull all of the old cabling out of your current and you have enough cable length to install in your new coach your costs will be minimal. If you have an installer do this work an installation of this nature usually starts around $1000 plus parts.

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Bill Adams
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Joe Keenan
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Current coach is a hard roof (fiberglass?). You probably don't remember, but you did the install. Do I just put some sealant in each hole after I pull the baseplate?

I should be able to use the control cable from the current install, but I might need to install new RF cables. Newmar pre-installed the RF cables but we had to run a new control cable, and it's in a conduit.

The new coach will have a conduit for the cables, so I should only need to do mounting holes (pre-drill), not a through-hole.

Will standard RG-6 work? I think I still have a partial roll. If not, easy enough to get some. And I have compression fittings and the tool for them.

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After removing the base plate you will want some Dicor caulk (or similar lap sealant but not silicone). Put a dab of caulk on the hole and then screw the screw back into the roof and seal over the top with more Dicor.
See if you can find some solid copper core RG6. The current TX RG6 used by MotoSAT has copper core and copper ground wires and might be worth ordering from them if you can't find locally. This is a white cable so you can identify it as TX and then a good quality RG6 will work for the receive.

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OK, that makes sense. I'll check my stock of cable and get some new if I need it. Since I won't be reusing the mounting screws, what should I buy? I want to get it in advance so I'm not scrambling around later.

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joe

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Hey;

Where does one get this "Dicor caulk"? Thanks.

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http://www.ebay.ca/itm/RV-DICOR-10-3oz-TUBE-LAP-SEALANT-WHITE-/150620978251?pt=Motors_RV_Trailer_Camper_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2311b5bc4b

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I buy mine from the Newmar parts desk when I'm passing through. I think I have a full tube now, but I can always pick up another when I go to do the move. It'll be at Newmar when we pick up the new coach.

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Most RV dealer parts departments have Dicor as well as all Camping World locations.
Joe, I always used a 10 x 3/4" machine screw. Nothing fancy and not stainless steel as the metal is stronger than SS but some prefer SS screws.

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Joe
What Newmar model are you guys buying?
Drive safely
Byron
04 Newmar Mtn Aire 4016

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We're looking at a 2013 King Aire. Nothing final yet.

joe

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Dicor is a polyeurothane (mispelt) base sealant. You can go to Lowes and buy tubes of Polyeurothane for $5 a tube that will do the trick. As for the standard RG-6 cable. Do not use a copper clad as it will downgrade your service (Increase attenuation on the line). Make sure you have 30 feet of cable, if not, buy a 3 to 6 Db attenuator to place on possibly both the RX and TX lines. Nominal RX power for the iDirect 3100 is -40.00. If you upgrade to a X3 or X5 nominal RX power should be around -50.00. Just some FYI for the DIY's.
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Rough numbers. Every provider has their own baseline or standard.
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I would not recommend any of that but what do I know, I don't do this stuff any longer! [LOL]
1) Dicor (spelled correctly)
2) Solid copper is better. Copper clad works just fine.
3) No attenuators no matter what.
4) Don't DIY unless it's a transfer.

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I think that the note was to show that it was polyurethane that was spelled incorrectly.

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