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seltech
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Hi all, i'm new to the satillite scene so please bear with me. I just have hughsnet installed at my home locaiton 1 week ago. After doing much research about it of course, so as expected I was prepared to see slower then normal download speeds during high congestion hours. Although I was expecting this I wasn't expecting such a loss in download speed. I'm on the Home plan through hughesnet 768/128k during the early morning hours 6am i can download at around 940kbps and upload 130kbps which i think is excellent numbers givin my plan. Also I play World of warcraft and in the morning i see pings sub 800 (which is totally playable with no issues).

once i get home from work its a whole new beast. I have the same upload that doesn't change (which is awesome) but my download rates drop to 50kbps (about 11KB down) which is just slow (dial up is almost as fast at this point). As a result my pings are also increased (in WoW i see about 1800 - 2300 at this point).

Is this a case of the transponder being over crowded? anything going on with g16 in particular? os perhaps i need to tweak my dish or settings, i'm not sure.

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Same here with a 90 signal strength.
Over Crowded. If you stay up after Midnight it gets better. Not as many on then.

December 19th, 06:52PM - 48/84 kbps
December 19th, 06:50PM - 46/69 kbps
December 19th, 06:48PM - 119/129 kbps
December 19th, 12:49PM - 82/138 kbps
December 19th, 12:31PM - 296/157 kbps
December 19th, 12:28PM - 379/146 kbps
December 19th, 12:22PM - 100/124 kbps
December 19th, 12:20PM - 66/142 kbps
December 19th, 12:16PM - 66/71 kbps
December 19th, 12:14PM - 80/39 kbps
December 18th, 11:46PM - 590/74 kbps
December 18th, 11:38PM - 290/105 kbps
December 18th, 11:35PM - 257/76 kbps
December 18th, 04:19PM - 18/21 kbps
December 18th, 04:04PM - 17/58 kbps
December 18th, 03:51PM - 34/18 kbps
December 18th, 03:48PM - 34/27 kbps
December 18th, 03:46PM - 51/31 kbps

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wow, I hope you didn't sign up for satellite expecting to game in the evenings.... what you are experiencing is normal for satellite, fine in the morning, miserably slow in the evenings...

there will be a slowdown everytime 'the world' gets online-- like during halftime at the super bowl. that sort of thing.

personally I am hoping that everyone is done shopping & the night traffic just might ease up slightly.

<sigh> Maria

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Steven Neubeck
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Things do get slow at certain times but should never get that slow. You said you just got the system, it may take a couple of weeks to get things to do better, much like DSL takes some time, a timing thing. Also, I found that Hughes does check the results of speed checks, often things get better after I made a Hughes speed test.

-Steven

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One thing about being Mobil is that you can change satellites more easy, unlike the fixed. After I posted earlier I was tired of the slow 99W 1350 and had it changed to the 117W 1130, there were no other transponders available on 99W to switch too. Now I will have to change my BOW some and stay away from traveling in the NW.

Thanks to Motosat & Maurice [Thanks] [Thanks]
Speeds now are up now. But I know that could change at any time.

December 20th, 01:21PM - 882/135 kbps
December 20th, 01:19PM - 867/73 kbps
December 20th, 01:18PM - 868/37 kbps

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Thanks for your input guys, its much appreciated. I understand that gamming on satillite is almost usless but i just play world of warcraft and it isn't so bad when the connection is ok. The first 2 nights were great with downloads only dipping down to around 500kpbs which i found acceptable, pings in wow were 900-1200 then too which isn't the greatest but playable. Its just now it seems the dl rate is just way too low for justification of any means. I believe they say anything over 200k is acceptable. but 50kbps hurts [Smile]

I will do some speed tests through myhughesnet and see if it lights a fire on there end [Smile] I'm just dreading calling there tech support.

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also i've heard if i upgrade to the pro plan i will get more priority on bandwidth? is this just a rumor or is there some validity to this ?

again thanks for all your knowledge. Satillite internet is a whole different beast altogether.

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If Hughes gives one plan more priority, they certainly don't say so, and there's no way to tell.

You will often see people talk about "overloaded satellites" or "overloaded transponders." Such talk is not meaningful. Every Hughes satellite is deliberately and carefully severely overloaded to roughly the same amount. Always has been, always will be. That's the only way you can run "cheap" (under $500 per month) satellite service.

What does matter is the gateway loading, and issues with your own system.

The gateway (router IP) you access through, carries a lot less than a full transponder's worth of traffic, and is shared with relatively few other people. If you are unlucky to get stuck with a bunch of heavy users, all of you will suffer.

You can't directly make a gateway change, but anything else you do will cause a gateway change, such as a change of satellites, a change of service, or whatever. It is a crapshoot - you could move up in service, and wind up on a worse gateway.

Some people think that the pattern where your speeds drop to extremely low levels during peak periods is due to gateway contention levels. That is not always true. If there is anything at all marginal about your transmits, you will drop like a rock whenever your gateway loads up, while someone else on the same gateway with everything going OK will see a drop that is not nearly as severe.

At 192.168.0.1 look at your transmission info. The number of failed transmissions should be something less than 2%. If they climb during peak periods, it is the retransmission of data that is killing your speeds. Each retransmission has to wait for a slot, so it is a much higher impact in busy times than in off-peak times.

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seltech
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thanks for the info DonB, I'll keep an eye on the failed transmissions during peak hours to see whats going on.

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Hi DonB. I looked at my transmission errors on my HN7000s but it wasn't represented in a percent. It said 164 total failed transmissions. My modem hasn't been reset in 4 days so am i correct to assume that i've had 164 failed transmissions within the 4 day period? Is that high? if so what steps can i take to reduce it if possible? Thanks for you knowledge everyone. Helps keep sat n00bs like me in check [Smile] I was spoiled with 5Mbps cable for 5 years so I feel like i'm on dial up during peak hours lol.

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The percentage Don is referring to is the difference between success and failed transmissions. This is good (my current information)
TRANSMISSION INFO:
Number of Successful Transmissions 128335
Number of Failed Transmissions 10
(Way less than 1%)

This would be bad
TRANSMISSION INFO:
Number of Successful Transmissions 128335
Number of Failed Transmissions 3355
(Almost 3%)

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So my numbers today are good:
Number of Successful Transmissions
287064
Number of Failed Transmissions
122

Nice to know (although I do not share the OP's bird)

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I play WoW on G16 1250 MHz... it's fine in the mornings and up until about 5pm, but yep nearly always unplayable at night. Sometimes my ping is over 2000 at night, so I don't even bother.

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