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rtibbetts
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It's time for daddy (me) to buy a new computer and HP doesn't seem to want to provide me with XP any longer.
I searched for articles regarding Vista issues and found most to be a year old.
Any issue running Datastorm controller software with Vista (64 bit)? Linksys?

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Don & Donna Beck
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I have Vista Ultimate on a desktop and a laptop (both Dell) and Vista Home Premium on another desktop (Sony Vaio). A 4th laptop (another Dell) is still on XP, but is a special purpose machine and doesn't get to play with the others except when getting updated files which is completly manual as it is rarely on network.

I have seen many say never to Vista, but I happen to like it. I didn't at first, but that was mainly because I didn't understand the differences and couldn't find my way around like I could with XP with which I was so familiar. Once I devoted some time to learning it, I liked it better than XP.

Now, I never tried to install Vista on an old machine. All our Vista PCs have come with Vista installed initially. I don't have any software that wouldn't run on Vista. I do run Don's admin & map update programs and outside of not understanding his instructions initially they run fine once I "got it". I also run an older program called RV Notebook and it runs fine. Most of the rest of my software has been updated to versions that are Vista aware. On a couple I had to go find a patch on a website, but nothing that was hard to do or put me out of commission.

The laptop with XP was the primary computer when we got the Motosat dish, modem, etc. installed. They continue to work with whatever has been updated and attached to them. I just copied the many links for the modem, router & D3 to the new computers as they came along.

I think our Vista is all 32 bit. Hope that gives you a bit of confidence and I'm happy to answer any questions if you have some.

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Don
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Bill Adams
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First, it's important for you to understand that there is NO software on any computer related to the actual operation of the Datastorm antenna, the Hughes modem or your router.
Any computer you bring into the coach will work just fine be in Mac or PC with any version of Windows.
There are a couple of programs written by others that work in conjunction with the D2/D3 such as Don's D2Admin and the FAPMon program. Both of these work fine with Vista and access to all of the various informational browser windows such as the MotoSAT Datastorm screen at 192.168.1.250 work in all of the browsers.

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Bill Adams
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Dave and Jan Douglass
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Bill....

Before we make the "ultimate statement" like that, we might want to verify what he means by "Any issue running Datastorm controller software ".

He is member 2680, so has been with us for awhile, but his "sig" line is missing. He just might have a D1, and (heaven forbid) 4000 modems.

So, Mr. RTibbitts, which controler do you have, and which Hughes modem do you have?

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David Douglass
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D4(4.1.3) HNS7000s 117-1070 Windows 7 Ultimate (64)

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rtibbetts
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David,

To answer your question......D2 & 7000

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rtibbetts

If there is the chance that you may want to 'roll back' your new HP Vista machine, avoid the 64 bit version. You will NOT be able to install XP. Many new features of the syetm do not have 32 bit drivers....Been there, tried that...HP Pavilion DV 9825NR.

FYI I do still use a D1 with my new laptop...still cluncky, but it does work and I do not have any direcway software installed....just the datastorm administrator.... [Two Thumbs Up]

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Jim & Myrna Lawrence

Now on MiFi | Windows 8 64 bit |

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John & Cathy
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rtibbets,

I run Vista Ultimate 64-bit on my primary computer. Like you, I prefer it to Windows XP (but I caution others that you need plenty of speed and memory in your computer or you won't like it). The D2/7000 doesn't run on the computer so it doesn't care about XP or Vista. Same with routers, but if you have other Linksys hardware (such as a print server) be aware that Linksys computer software doesn't support any 64-bit systems (XP, Vista or whatever).

John

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"Always gone yet always at home."

Fulltiming in Monaco Windsor towing Jeep Grand Cherokee
F1 Datastorm | D2 | DW7000 | 117/990 | Vista Ultimate 64

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Steve&Jess
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It's time to move on.
Like Windows XP vs Windows 95 there were major differences in the OS in look and feel, as well as hw compatabilities. Same goes with Vista vs XP. Many old hw and sw are not compatible with Vista and you may be faced replacing them when moving on to Vista. I remember having to do the same thing when moving from 95 to XP. Reality is that most all new machines can only be purchased with Vista now. Sorry , don't have a choice. Like all new OS's, there are plenty of bugs to be fixed. Vista has been around for a while now and many problems have been fixed (still more to go). Nice thing about MS, you can always rely on them to release their weekly patches (or at least it seems like it). Cheer up, in a short time we'll be saying the same thing about Vista as we are now saying about XP. "Love the Vista, hate the new Vista 2015"

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Steve&Jessie
2003 HR Traveler 28RB towing Jeep Wrangler F1/D3/HN7000S
See Where We Are Today

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Roger K4RS
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You CAN purchase a computer today with XP installed. While not available at consumer outlets (Circuit City, Best Buy, etc) Dell, HP, Lenovo and others who support large business will still sell you a PC with XP:

http://www.dell.com/business/laptops#subcats=&navla=80770~0~1791344&navidc=Operating%20System&navValc=Vista%20with%20Downgrade%20to%20XP&a=80770~0~1791344

And it is possible to erase the hard drive and start over with XP. I have successfully done this for many people. The only tricky part is finding drivers. Some like Dell make the process easy while others like Toshiba do not.

I recently obtained a pre-release copy of Windows 7 (the next version of Windows). The good news is that it appears Microsoft has addressed many of Vista's shortcomings. Of course there is always the option of switching to a Mac or Linux.

Safe Travels...

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Roger, K4RS
Dustyfoot Tripod HN7000S on Horizons-1, 1110, Pro
On the road, living the dream...

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Bill Adams
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He did not say that you could NOT purchase one, only that most all new machines are going to have Vista on them.
I have one of each and I prefer XP but if I have to buy a new computer it will be loaded with whatever the latest operating system is at the time.

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Bill Adams
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David Horn
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Just moved from a Toshiba laptop with XP to a Dell with Vista. Beneath the Vista surface there are many similarities that I recognize. Also upgraded to Office 2007 - many changes so you have to look around and study the programs for a while. Had to get a new Quickbooks for my non-profit work. And the only thing not working at this time is Mapsource. Did the download to the latest, loaded the maps and now there's a registry problem that I have to call them about. Otherwise, not a bad experience overall with Vista.

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David Horn
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2005 BMW R1200RT
2008 Subaru Forester
Ringo, the Travelin' English Cocker
Here I Am!

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There is no question Vista is getting the bugs out (never buy version 1.0 of anything)and drivers are getting written. However, most large companies are staying with XP at least until the next version of Windows is released so they can evaluate it's performance and possibly avoid Vista altogether. (send it the way of Windows ME).
The concern is not simply lost productivity due to the learning curve, it is the need to upgrade hardware sooner due to performance reductions. If you have the opportunity to run benchmarking tests with both operating systems on the same hardware, the XP machine will always be several times faster to complete most tasks. If you are web surfing and reading email and not much more go with Vista to make life simple - just don't be too upset if it actually does things slower than your old machine.

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Terrestrial Wireless (finally found an alternative!)

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