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The wind apparently finally got my ten year plus LNB fiberglass dish through (of course) my own negligence. Nothing visible but it just won’t pick up the signal past 19 or so on the OPI.
I have found a metal 1 watt setup with a 7000 modem on Craig's. The modem was discontinued by unplugging it so it's probably of no use.
My question, finally, is: How much difference is there between the metal 1 watt and metal 2 watt? Should I keep looking for a 2 watt'er or should this one be fine? IYO
Thanks, Harold
-------------------- 7000S Home, 99West, .74Meter, 1 Watt, Manual Pointing Posts: 116 | From: Western States | Registered: Jan 2007
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From what I have been told, the difference is about $100 to your pocketbook, and virtually nothing to your satellite experience unless you are on the fringes of no signal, then the extra transmitter power may be beneficial. The metal dish, however, is much more susceptible to damage. I would suspect the wind is more likely to bend your LNB arm than to damage your fiberglass dish, unless the arm were to break the dish in a fall. Gary
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It is highly unlikely that the signal of 19 is anyway related to your fiberglass dish that shows no physical damage. More likely it is an account change on Hughes end or any of several other things.
Your first step should be to call your service provider and verify your account settings. Especially the frequency and symbol rate.
Next, check the REC cable by running a bypass directly from the LNB to the modem.
Let us know the results of the above.
-------------------- Don Marr WWW.OREGONRV.NET 541-683-5361 See where I am Country Coach Concept 40' F1 - D3|7000s|99W|LinkSys wireless with 1000mw WiFi amp & Ext. antenna Posts: 3364 | From: Eugene, OR | Registered: Jun 2004
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Well, here is the particulars. My 150 Watt solar panel is upright and turns manually for tracking the sun. The dish is nearby on the roof but clear of the panel.
However, I neglected to fasten a wing nut that adjusts the vertical angle on the panel.
The dish is mounted on a "T" fitting on a pipe and is fairly rigid unless I loosen two jam nuts.
The wind came up during the night and turned the solar panels hard enough to make a gouge on the outside of the transmitter and knock the dish down by turning the "T" fitting on the pipe. This took quite a force. I went through the normal pointing procedure the next morning that I have been doing frequently for over ten years. Couldn't get 30.
I had a brand new lnb so I installed it. Still nothing over 30. The arm appears absolutely perfect and of course the fiberglass dish sustained no damage.
My conclusion, based on pure assumption, was that some electronic device or component in the transmitter got damaged by the forceful blow from the out side of the transmitter. But maybe that doesn't have anything to do with receive.
I had been thinking about trying Verizon for sometime and decided this was a good time. Put the dish on 6 months vacation and got a Verizon account.
When it's good, Verizon is good. But I do a lot of remote stuff and have been having some problems this summer and have decide to stay with "good ole" HughesNet.
So I found a 1 watt dish and 7000 modem for $50 on Craig's. At 1 watt the modem probably wasn't 7000S anyhow which is what I have.
So it sounds like from the two replies that the 1 watt metal dish should be ok providing the dish isn't bent.
But now I'm also puzzling on what to do to determine for certain if my dish or some component is bad. I know the switching cables routine and have done that in the past. But in this case, it was fine the night before it got whacked. Then it was bad. Would seem to have something to do with the whacking.
Guess I'll drag out the lnb and mount it again and have another look. Would be nice to keep the old antique running.
-------------------- 7000S Home, 99West, .74Meter, 1 Watt, Manual Pointing Posts: 116 | From: Western States | Registered: Jan 2007
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Glad I could help. One is a test port and the other is the output. I think the correct port will be labeled IFL (or similar) but since it should be the same TX as other dishes use it will be the same connection as your old one.
-------------------- Bill Adams Winegard Company Posts: 15677 | From: Traveling the Western US | Registered: May 2003
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Did you ever verify with your service provider that you have the D3 set for the correct settings?? Hughes has made a LOT of changes lately! Especially to freq and symbol rate.
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No Don, I didn't. It was working, then my solar panels crashed into it knocking it over, and then it didn't work. Hit hard enough to leave a gouge in the transmitter case.
It just seems it would be a real coincidence if the Hughes settings were changed at the same time. And what complicates checking with Hughes is that my service is on vacation and I'm on Verizon at the moment.
I'm gonna hook up the $50 dish now and see if I can get a 30+ receive. If not, I'll .......well, I'm not sure. First things first.
-------------------- 7000S Home, 99West, .74Meter, 1 Watt, Manual Pointing Posts: 116 | From: Western States | Registered: Jan 2007
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Ok Don. Is there a place I can educate myself on D3? I don't have a clue. And is it something I can check while the Hughes service is on vacation?
I set up the new/used dish and got pretty much the same results as with the old dish. I did go ahead and switch cables in case the recieve was damaged in the collision. Same thing. Can't get a 30. Low 20's.
Would an incorrect D3 setting knock me off line or just stop me from being able to repoint?
Harold, puzzled in Yarnell
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Harold, To clarify, are you using a roof top automated Motosat mount, or is your antenna being pointed by something totally different? Your signature doesn't say, but you started this dialog in the manual/tripod section, so I would assume you do not have a Datastorm or a D3 controller. Gary
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It's not a Datastorm if he is installing some kind of a metal dish! I think Don just missed that part. Harold, your tripod does not have or use a D3.
-------------------- Bill Adams Winegard Company Posts: 15677 | From: Traveling the Western US | Registered: May 2003
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Right. Manual point. So much for D3.It may be that the receive on the used dish is out also. Can't get a 30 on either dish/lnb and of course no receive light on the modem.
Not sure what to try at this point. My modem is only about 1 year old. I guess I could try the modem that came with the used dish.
I've never tried it but if I'm understanding correctly a receive strength can be accomplished regardless of the modem settings? Provided elevation and skew are correctly set for the satellite that is pointed at?
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One is a test port and the other is the output. I think the correct port will be labeled IFL (or similar) but since it should be the same TX as other dishes use it will be the same connection as your old one.
