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Ted Sudtell
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HI, I swear my dish on a stick was easier to point then the F2/D3.

Now the D3 Dish Azimuth reading is going all over the place. Right now it is saying 4496.969 Deg... When I move it is will jump hundreds of degrees.
I have checked the wires in the back of the D3 and have screwed the azimuth sensor down to bottom and back out 3 turns. I manually pointed it telling it to move 900 Deg at a time. Only way to get on.
Will not do a dish calibrate - motor error when it swings back to 0.
It is foggy at the beach right now.

Any ideas? Sensor?
The first problem this am was the Skew sensor - I re-seated it, took care of that problem.

Ted

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I would try screwing the sensor in about 1 1/2 turns and see if that helps. If not you likely need a new sensor or a new UCB.

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Bill,
what is a UCB and what does it look like?

Is that where the numbers are stored ?

ted

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Upper Control Board or Upper Circuit Board. I don't think numbers are stored there, but it is a necessary interface between sensors and the LCB (lower circuit board, which we call the controller).

I would think that 3 turns out would almost always be too far to work well - like Bill says I've always hear that 1-1/2 turns is correct (1-1/2 turns in from your 3 turns will leave you at 1-1/2 turns).

[ August 22, 2011, 08:08 AM: Message edited by: DonB ]

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My guess would be the UCB. I would also try removing the wire connectors from the UCB one at a time and then pushing them back on, this assures they are getting a good connection. But, from the symptom it is most likely the UCB which may be a real problem because the last time I contacted MotoSat they did not have any for sale. It may be possible to send your UCB into MotoSat for repair. You'll need to contact MotoSat and ask them. Another thing to try is to closely examine the UCB, both top and bottom. You want to see a clean circuit board with no corrosion or water damage visible. Be careful not to touch the GPS chip as it is VERY static sensitive.

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Thanks guys,
I will try all that. I am always mobil and work over the Inet, sending in the board and parking for a month or two does not sound like fun...
Let you know if anything works.....

Ted

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Don Marr,

FYI. In running a calibrate dish I stopped in the middle of the azimuth portion and stowed it. all counts were correct did a search for it worked.
have no faith that it is fixed but working now ?.....

ted

PS Thanks for the help.

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I'm surprised that worked!

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quote:
Originally posted by Don - Oregon:
I'm surprised that worked!

Just the one time... Moved 40 miles and now needs to turn 350 Deg. no luck It 0's out but still gets the count wrong after 30 Degs or so..
Too good to be true.. lol

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If you interrupted a dish calibration you need to run another dish calibration before you do a new search and possibly cause a serious problem. You can interrupt many things. Calibrate Dish is not one of them.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bill Adams:
If you interrupted a dish calibration you need to run another dish calibration before you do a new search and possibly cause a serious problem. You can interrupt many things. Calibrate Dish is not one of them.

Bill, it interrupts itself, gets a -36 error on azimuth after returning to 0 and the count shows -45684 , got to be the UCB which motosat stopped stocking.
Looking for a used one.

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Sounds like the azimuth reed switch to me. Had a similar problem a few years back. Did all kinds of crazy things. Change it and it has worked perfect since then.

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quote:
Originally posted by Preacher Man:
Sounds like the azimuth reed switch to me. Had a similar problem a few years back. Did all kinds of crazy things. Change it and it has worked perfect since then.

That has been changed. It did a complete Cal today and found the sat on its own. I have been parking so it only has to move less that 30 deg, Nest time I park I will give it a try..

Go figure. I have checked all the connections....

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I figure I am just around to entertain you guys..

I changed the reed switch, I took the UCB off and cleaned the circuit board, cleaned all the connections, checked all the connections. I readjusted the the center hold down bolt, made it tighter. Checked all wiring on the roof and to the LCB.
4 days ago it started working again and has worked ever sense.
The only thing I can think of is I had a power failure while on the generator. Too much load so the power went down slower than just cutting the power.

I have always suspected that is what broke the UCB in the first place. But it is all conjecture anyway..

The point is, It works.... I now always turn off the D3 after deployment if not hooked up to shore power.

Ted

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"cleaned the circuit board, cleaned all the connections, checked all the connections"

Ted,

So you think it was just a bad connection ?

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