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I have uploaded D3 firmware version 3.9.4 for any that want it, as it is a "known-good" version for the F1. Those with a G74 or XF series probably should keep upgrading, but for the F1 there is no advantage once you get to the point where you can update satellite tables.
Note that you DO need to update the satellite table after loading 3.9.4, since it will take you back to an old one with lots of wrong entries for today.
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Sorry, Don, but where did you put it? I got my copy of 3.9.4 directly from you, so I have a copy, but would help others to know where to look on DSU to find the file. Gary
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Interest to find out after the Rally. Royal told me that the D3 Firmware version 3.9.4 was the last version that he recommends for the DataStorm F1's. At the Rally, we had several problems with the 3.9.5 beta versions, and had to revert back to 3.9.4 for the systems to work porperly. Upon checking MotoSat's web site, I noticed the following written about the 3.9.4 Firmware.
Posted Nov.13, 2008, Thurday during the Rally: "This older release of DataStorm software can be used with all DataStorm products: G, F and XF systems. If you are a Datastorm F1 user, and are having problems with v3.9.5, please use this version instead. Revision History included."
Additionally, on the same date and since, there are versions 3.9.5 and two 3.9.6 beta versions have been included on MotoSat's site, and all versions posted include the statement, "software is compatable with all DataStorm products: G, F and XF system users."
The problems we had were more than random, so Maurice and I had to change many F1 users back to 3.9.4 Firmware.
My suggestion would be for anyone that is using Version 3.9.4 and their DataStorm is operiting satisfactorily, DON'T UPGRADE!
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Tony, My D3 is running on 3.9.5, successfully. Has not been a single glitch since the rally. I have 3.9.4 on my computer, should it become necessary to back up one version, but have not found a need.
Gary
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It appears to be fairly random problems. I recently worked with a customer with 3.9.4 and the F1 would lock on one minute but not the next. No matter what I tried I could not find a solution. I "updated" the firmware to 3.9.5 and it has worked perfectly ever since. Obviously MotoSAT doesn't know what's going on or they wouldn't have 2 versions of firmware plus 2 versions of beta firmware on their site.
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My experience was with two different F1s (new style UCB) and two different D3s. I could not even get any communication to the mount with 3.9.6. After several hours of swapping UCBs, D3s, cables, and a some head-scratching, I called Motosat and was told that 3.9.4 was now the only version considered to be "release" for F1 series. Ugh... Back to 3.9.4 and both systems worked fine. It was news to me.
So as I see it now the firmware is divided into three versions for Datastorms (not counting old D1 controllers): D2/F1 - 3.7.6 D3/F1 - 3.9.4 D3/G/XF - 3.9.6 (beta or whatever is current)
quote:So as I see it now the firmware is divided into three versions for Datastorms (not counting old D1 controllers): D2/F1 - 3.7.6 D3/F1 - 3.9.4 D3/G/XF - 3.9.6 (beta or whatever is current)
Unless one of those don't work and then try something else! I believe that the G74 is working OK with 3.9.5 as well.
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quote: Yeah, that gets a little tough to explain when you are charging customers by the hour for labor
I went through that yesterday. The system was a F3/D3-394/iDirect. MotoSat told him he needed to upgrade to 395. I doubted that so read the update log and found nothing after 394 that should affect either iDirect or the F3. Later, MotoSat said they were sorry but it should have been in the log. I updated and found no improvement.
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My F1/D3 is still finding 117 with the old 3.8.9 with no problems.
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Not trusting myself to have everything come out right if I was doing it, I asked Maurice to update my ‘good’ D3 and my ‘spare’ D3 to the latest software (one was 3.8.9 and the other was 3.9.2) while at the ’08 Rally.
He tried to update them to the current 3.9.6a Beta version, but they BOTH locked-up on him. He did manage to get one to partially communciate with him but the other one was completely unresponsive, and said he’d have to take them back to SLC and work on them there.
I ended up with 2 different D3’s, both of them with the 3.9.6a software, but they seem to be doing ok…. For now.
Thanks Don, for adding the link to the old version, I already have it handy.
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Originally posted by Biker1956: My F1/D3 is still finding 117 with the old 3.8.9 with no problems.
It is important for F1 users to understand the issues, and do the appropriate downloads if they want to stay back at 3.89
3.89 was the last significant update that actually addressed F1 issues in terms of hardware. Everything since then is really only applicable to X or G-series dishes. Hence, newer firmware will not "work" any better than 3.89. 3.89 was the pinnacle of hardware perfection for the D3/F1, as 3.76 was for the D2.
BUT, and it's a big but, 3.89 cannot do satellite table changes. There have been many, many changes since 3.89 was released, and it is generally only a matter of time before one will bite you.
At a bare minimum you should have version 3.94 downloaded to your computer, as well as routinely downloading the latest satellite tables.
It would not hurt to go ahead and install 3.94, since it is now a "proven" version that doesn't hurt anything for the F1 when compared with 3.89.
Once an F1 owner has 3.94 there is no reason currently to expect to ever have to upgrade again - the F1 mount won't change, and the only thing that will be necessary in the future is to keep up with the tables.
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I wish it were that simple. I worked with a customer with 3.9.4 and it would not work well at all. Yesterday I worked with someone with 3.9.3-1 (first with the import sat table option, I believe) and it works great with the new sat table installed so I will not update him. I liked 3.9.4 as it eliminated the Checking Satellite ridiculously long delay but I have reverted to a "if it ain't broke don't fix it" frame of mind. I would suggest downloading all of the current (non-beta) versions of MotoSAT software and keep them handy but not do anything with any version as long as it is working properly.
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